Selasa, 10 November 2009

The Best Team Of The Decade: The 2001-02 Detroit Red Wings



Many things are easy to debate because there isn't necessarily a measuring stick for everything when it comes to a player or a team. You can argue how one player's ability to score goals isn't as valuable as someone else's ability to generate plays, or how a team's attention to defense isn't as valuable as a team's ability to just win. Yet when it comes to the best team assembled in the past decade, maybe even the past 20 years, there's not a contest as to who that team is.

It's the 2001-02 Detroit Red Wings.

As it stands, three players from the 2001-02 Red Wings Team, being Steve Yzerman, Brett Hull, and Luc Robataille, were inducted into the Hall of Fame this year. They join Igor Larionov and Scotty Bowman as both alumni from the 2001-02 Red Wings team and inductees into the Hockey Hall of Fame. Considering how many other qualified players are eligible to be inducted, that's quite an honor for them to make the cut.

But what about the other players who have yet to retire (or be retired long enough) to warrant their own inclusion into the HHOF? Red Wings fans don't need to mention the contributions that Nicklas Lidstrom made toward the team and provided the club with a franchise player who took the torch when it was time for Yzerman to retire. The team could have belonged to Sergei Fedorov, whose 1179 NHL points place him among the game's best, had he placed the team before himself. No one can blame Brendan Shanahan for leaving when he did; he gave the Red Wings the best years of his career before they transformed from a rough-and-tumble North American-based team into a finesse-based European-styled team, leaving Shanahan on the outside looking in as the team's only player who embraced the concept of toughness. While Chris Chelios didn't necessarily give Detroit his best years per se, he did extend a career that many thought would be over in 3 seasons to 10 and is still showing no signs of stopping after signing a contract with the Chicago Wolves of the AHL. Dominik Hasek, who remains the premier European goaltender of all time, backstopped this team through some grueling series that saw him facing none other than long-time nemesis Patrick Roy, whom many point to as being better than Hasek largely because of his birthplace. He's still young in his career, but the 2001-02 season was the rookie season of a sixth-round draft pick named Pavel Datsyuk, who has gone on to become one of the most dynamic two-way players in the game today. While Steve Duchesne may still be waiting for his turn to be inducted, his career as a defenseman that could both score and provide an abundance of grit leaves him as one of the best defenders to ever play the game. You look at any of the names in the above paragraph and you know that it's not a matter of if they'll be in the HHOF, but rather when that will happen.

While legends make for a great team, this group also had an unsung supporting cast that was just as important as their star power. The infamous Grind Line of Kris Draper, Kirk Maltby, and Darren McCarty gave the Red Wings a line that featured the most complete checking unit in the league that season while forward Tomas Holmstrom remains one of the best power play screeners/deflectors the game's ever had. Jiri Fischer was only beginning to touch on the potential of his career before his heart condition forced him into retirement while Mathieu Dandenault gave the team a roving player who's career may still be legitimate had he not left for more money in Montreal. Manny Legace has forever been considered one of the best backups in the league and parlayed that role into several starting opportunities for Detroit, The St. Louis Blues, and now the Carolina Hurricanes. Boyd Deveraux supplied the team with a legitimate checking presence before concussion issues forced him to pursue a career in the minors. While there were a few fringe players and prospects who flamed out during their time with the club that season, the 2001-02 season was the beginning of the NHL careers for current Red Wings forward Jason Williams and some guy named Sean Avery. Maybe you've heard of him.

The early-80's New York Islanders and the late-80's Edmonton Oilers supplied dynasties that provided a lifetime worth of memories. Yet after economics dismantled both teams, there never was a team that was as loaded with star power these guys had (with absolutely no disrespect to the 1994 New York Rangers or the 2001 Colorado Avalanche.) Not only were they likely the best team of the decade, but they were the last team of this magnitude to be assembled before the lockout. Yes, the team was an embarrassment of riches, but when your money is made through winning, than you have to invest wisely if you want business to be good. I'm glad Mike Illitch understood that concept.

2001-02 Detroit Red Wings, we at The Bruise Brothers say you're the best and we salute you!

Senin, 02 November 2009

So What's Up With The "Charity" Point?

It's been a-while, but with the frequency I've been working lately, I've not had much the time to update the blog with anything noteworthy that you couldn't get from various news sources. With that said, now's a more op-ed piece that people like to either disagree with or agree with.

I was on TSN earlier today when I saw the article written about how the NHL should switch to a Win-Loss system instead of having the 2-1-0 point system that's reminiscent of when games resulted in ties. The argument made, ones that I've heard plenty of times before, are that the games aren't as competitive with the current point system and undeserving teams may end up in the playoffs simply because they could make it to the "fourth" period.

So what do I think? I think it should be handled one of two ways:

Go back to tie games and remain with the 2-1-0 system: As a person who things the shootout is sort of silly, this is an easier way for us to handle the situation. Let the guys grind it out for potentially 65 minutes and if there's still no winner there, then the game's tied.

However, the majority of fans like the shootout and hey, I shouldn't hold it against them for that because it does decide a winner. So what would I like to see considering that I have to accept the shootout as a fact of hockey life?

Adopt the 3-2-1-0 system: That's 3 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an overtime or shootout win, 1 point for an overtime or shootout loss, and no points for a regulation loss.

The reason I'm huge on this system is that it's completely fair while promoting a sense of competition to get true results. For people who want to see better competition, the teams will have more incentive to battle for that extra point in regulation instead of skating loftily to overtime. For people who want to see the best team achieve the best standings, this standard would provide a better chance to feature teams that were able to finish games before the overtime period than to have teams at the top because by the end of the game, they were able to win at a skills competition against the opposing goaltender. It also gives credit to those who were able to go into overtime, even if they lost, as opposed to the teams who can't quite exude enough effort to require the extra time.

People can argue about how basketball and baseball don't have ties. Well, the last I checked baseball was nowhere near as intense of a physical sport as hockey. Also, basketball's scoring system is a whole lot more prolific than hockey's and will never require a free-throw contest to end the game. The players who play the game battle hard each minute their on the ice. I think that if the team was able to make it to overtime, it should shine on the stats for both the teams and (especially) the goaltenders.

The current system is flawed because it doesn't give the proper value to victories. The idea of going win-loss is flawed because it doesn't give proper value to losses. Traditionalists would like to see the games go back to ties but the modern-day hockey fan wants to see the shootout. That said, the 3-2-1-0 point system is, in my humble opinion, the best way to go in order to give the best teams the best chance at being in the playoffs.

What do you think?

Sabtu, 19 September 2009

Fantasy Hockey Time!!!

Hey everyone.

I've got a fantasy league I'm looking to get off the ground. So far it's me and another person, which is actually kinda cool considering I just got it going about an hour ago.

It's deep though: 20-man active roster with a 3 person bench and 2 slots for IR. I wanna put as much emphasis on the importance of the depth players as I do the stars. Here's the details below:

League ID#: 177542
League Name: NHL Deep League
Password: system32
Custom League URL: http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/thebadone
Draft Type: Live Draft
Draft Time: Sun Sep 27 5:30pm MDT [ Add to My Calendar ]
Max Teams: 20
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 0
Trade End Date: March 4, 2010
Waiver Time: 1 day
Can't Cut List Provider: None
Trade Review: Commissioner
Post Draft Players: Free Agents
Max Acquisitions per Week: No maximum
Min Games Played: No minimum
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Week 1
Divisions: Yes (4 divisions)
Playoff Seeding Options: Division winners awarded top playoff seeds
Roster Positions: C, C, C, LW, LW, LW, RW, RW, RW, F, F, D, D, D, D, D, Util, Util, G, G, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR
Forwards/Defensemen Stat Categories: Goals (G), Assists (A), Points (P), Plus/Minus (+/-), Penalty Minutes (PIM), Powerplay Points (PPP), Shorthanded Points (SHP), Game-Winning Goals (GWG), Shots on Goal (SOG), Shooting Percentage (SH%), Faceoffs Won (FW), Faceoffs Lost (FL)
Goaltenders Stat Categories: Games Started (GS), Wins (W), Losses (L), Goals Against Average (GAA), Save Percentage (SV%), Shutouts (SHO)

Come join!

Sabtu, 05 September 2009

The long hockey survey

Taken from Sign Gurl's blog at http://yotessigngurl.blogspot.com/2009/08/looooong-hockey-survey.html


What is the first jersey you ever owned?
I think it was a LA Kings Gretzky jersey my step-dad gave to me when I was 8. Then I'm pretty sure my dad countered by getting my brother and I Wings jerseys. Considering it was 1989 at the time, I have to say that was a win-win kinda deal.

What is the last piece of hockey memorabilia – jerseys, cards, figurines, etc. – you purchased?
Purchased was a Coyotes T-Shirt. The last piece of meorabilia that I received though a long-sleeve Coyotes shirt as a gift from my friend Christina.

Keep your ticket stubs or throw them away?
I keep the fancy ones that STH's get, but I don't hold onto the ones that say "Ticketmaster" on them.

Who has the more intriguing hair – Brian Engblom or Barry Melrose?
Engblom. Melrose's hair just isn't as epic as it used to be.

Who is the most underrated player in the league? The most overrated?

The most underrated player in the league is Chris Osgood. The guy gets no respect despite having FIVE Stanley Cup Finals appearances with THREE rings to go with that.

I'd say Crosby's slightly overrated because Malkin's better on his own team. As much as I hate to say it, Ryan Smyth is probably the most overrated by critics. He gets traded to the Kings for a promising defenseman in Kyle Quincey and the hockey pundits are ready to act like the Kings are cup contenders because he's on the team. I don't really recall Edmonton or Colorado being good teams by the time he left them, respectively.

What one rule or penalty would you add?

I'd make visors mandatory. End of discussion.

Forget predictions and rankings and who finished where last year – all logic aside, what two teams (one East, one West) would you love to see compete for the Cup this year?

Who I'd "love" to see versus who I think will make it are two different things. I've got a feeling that come late May, the Vancouver Canucks will be going against the Boston Bruins for the Cup.

Complete this sentence: The next Winter Classic should be between the New York Rangers and the Toronto Maple Leafs and should take place at the Rogers Centre in Toronto (roof open of course.)

More disturbing image – Crosby with a “mustache” or Crosby in bed with the Cup?
Crosby looks like a child molester with that mustache...

Which team has the best mascot?
The Canadiens because Youppi's been around forever.

Whose press conference would you rather listen to – John Tortorella, Bruce Boudreau or Ron Wilson?
Ron Wilson, but only when the media says something that pisses him off.

Who is your favorite all-time player? Who is your favorite active player?

Favorite all-time player is Bobby orr, with Steve Yzerman and Terry Sawchuk being in very, very close contention.

My current favorite players are Shane Doan, Niklas Lidstrom, and Tim Thomas. All three demonstrate skill, intelligence, leadership, and committment.

Do you read team-specific blogs about teams other than your own? Which ones and why?
I read the Coyotes Hip Check blog because it's usually updated on a regular basis.

Do you think the NHL will ever put a team in Hamilton, Kansas City and/or Las Vegas?
I hope that the NHL expands to Hamilton and relocates a team from a saturated market (hello NY or LA) to Kansas City. As for Las Vegas, I think it would be a gamble (no pun intended.)

Everyone’s got a guilty pleasure – what player and/or team do you like that you really shouldn’t?
Anaheim Ducks. They eliminated the Red Wings in 2007 and they're divisional rivals of the Coyotes, but man alive they're excellent at what they do.

What team has improved the most this summer?
The Broad Street Bullies 2.0. They didn't make a plethora of moves, but the ones they made really fortified the team.

What is your favorite hockey memory?

Red Wings: I have two: The first was the Cup victory in '97 because everyone in Detroit was overjoyed. The second were the antics of my brother Dave and I at Wings games.

Coyotes: I have two, also: The first was getting glass seats to a preseason game, where my friends and I heckled the bejesus out of the Edmonton Oilers (sorry guys) and going to see the Coyotes-Maple Leafs game in person and watching the game end 5-1 Coyotes with 3 fights happening throughout the game. Now that's some old-time hockey!

Which team has the worst jersey? How about the worst third/specialty jersey?

I don't care for the Buffalo Sabers current jerseys and think they should be replaced by their current third jersey as their main logo. I don't like the Dallas Stars' third jersey because it's just like their home jersey, which is pretty bland as is.

Roll out your favorite homemade player nickname(s).
"Do It Doug" Brown from when he played for the Red Wings. Mallrats fans should get the reference.

If you could move any uprooted team (e.g. Quebec Nordiques, Hartford Whalers, etc.) back to their original home, which one would you move?
I wouldn't relocate any of the teams back to their home market. I think Winnipeg has the best facilities to get an expansion club, though.

What will Jeremy Roenick’s next career move be?
He'll do something that involves hockey and entertainment, so he'll probably become a color analyst for one of the larger networks.

Have you ever stopped rooting for one hockey team and started rooting for another? If so, what made you switch?
I dunno if it counts but I started following the Coyotes once I moved to Phoenix in addition to the Red Wings. I still follow the Red WIngs closely but I'm a sucker for underdogs.

Who had the better mug shot, Kane or Finley?
Patrick Kane.

Enough of this geography crap; toss out the current divisions and propose a new divisional alignment for the league.
I'd expand by two teams with one in Southern Ontario (Mississauga to be exact) and another in Winnipeg. In terms of alignments:

Eastern Conference: Southeast would be Tampa Bay, Miami, Atlanta, and Carolina. Atlantic would be Washington, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and the Devils. The Northeast would be both NY teams, Boston, and Montreal. A newly created Ontario Division would be Toronto, Mississauga, Ottawa, and Buffalo.

Western Conference: A newly created Great Lakes division would be Detroit, Columbus, Chicago, and Minnesota. Central division would be Nashville, Dallas, St. Louis, and Winnipeg. Northwest would be Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, and Colorado. Pacific would be Phoenix, L.A., Anaheim, and San Jose.

Do you follow other sports besides hockey or are you a one-sport fan?
I'm primarily a one-sport fan, but I will watch baseball and pro football. Basketball's okay, but I was never good at it so my self-absorbed nature kinda turned me off from it.

Which free agent acquisition do you think will have the biggest impact on his new team?
If Ray Emery shapes up to be everything he can be, then he'll have the biggest impact on his new club.

Of the five lottery teams last season (Tampa, Atlanta, NY Islanders, Phoenix, Colorado) which one(s) will make the playoffs this year?
Shouldn't Phoenix be substituted for L.A.? I think it should. With that in mind, Tampa has the best chance of the five in terms of making the playoffs.

What is your favorite hockey reference in a non-hockey movie/TV episode? e.g. Lisa and Bart Simpson playing hockey, the famous video game scene from Swingers, etc.
Wayne and Garth playing street hockey in the first Wayne's World film.

What player from the other 29 teams would you love to have on your team?
Ill choose someone other than a Coyote and Red Wing and say that I would love to have Shea Weber on my team.

Superlative time!
• Best pure goal scorer – Ovechkin
• Worst referee – Mick McGeough
• Goalie when you need one save – Roberto Luongo.
• The guy a lot of people have never heard of (but should have) – Derick Brassard, but that will probably change this season.
• When it gets chippy – Colton Orr
• Coach for a must-win game – Dan Bylsma
• Get under your skin guy – Dan Carcillo or Jarret Boll
• The home crowd – Toronto Maple Leafs fans because they're there win or lose.
• Worst arena to play in as a visitor – Probably Anaheim because my brother told me about the s--- he encountered when he went to see a Wings' game there.
• Worst arena to play in as the home team – Either the NY Islanders or the NJ Devils because everyone there has their nose up the Rangers' asses.

And finally, quick picks. Do you prefer:
• Crosby or Ovechkin? Ovechkin.
• Ovechkin or Malkin? Malkin.
• Overtime or shootout? Overtime
• 4-on-3 or 5-on-4? 4 on 3
• Sakic or Yzerman? Absolutely no disrespect to Sakic, but definitely Yzerman.
• Kerry Fraser or Bill McCreary? McCreary
• Montreal Forum or Maple Leaf Gardens? Maple Leaf Gardens
• Roy or Brodeur? Brodeur.
• Touch-up icing or no-touch icing? No-touch
• Top shelf or five hole? Top shelf
• Eddie Olczyk or Pierre McGuire? Olczyk when he's animated.
• Slapshot or wrist shot? Slap Shot. I loved that movie!
• Orr or Coffey? Orr
• Coffee or tea? Coffee
• Canada or Russia? Neither, U.S.A. all the way!
• Miracle or Mighty Ducks? Miracle documented the moment hockey became a relevant sport in the United States while Mighty Ducks gave us the knucklepuck. I hope I don't have to spell the rest of that out for you.

Selasa, 25 Agustus 2009

So what are my predicitions for how the season will turn out?

This is what I think will happen before even a single preseason game's been played.

Western Conference; Central Division
1. Chicago Blackhawks
2. Detroit Red Wings
3. Columbus Blue Jackets
4. St. Louis Blues
5. Nashville Predators

Western Conference; Northwest Division
1. Vancouver Canucks
2. Minnesota Wild
3. Calgary Flames
4. Edmonton Oilers
5. Colorado Avalanche

Western Conference; Pacific Division
1. Anaheim Ducks
2. San Jose Sharks
3. Phoenix Coyotes
4. Dallas Stars
5. L.A. Kings

Eastern Conference; Northeast Division
1. Boston Bruins
2. Montreal Canadiens
3. Buffalo Sabres
4. Toronto Maple Leafs
5. Ottawa Senators

Eastern Conference; Atlantic Division
1. Philadelphia Flyers
2. Pittsburgh Penguins
3. New Jersey Devils
4. NY Rangers
5. NY Islanders

Eastern Conference; Southeast Division
1. Washington Capitals
2. Carolina Hurricanes
3. Atlanta Thrashers
4. Tampa Bay Lightning
5. Florida Panthers

Western Conference Overall:
1. Vancouver Canucks
2. Anaheim Ducks
3. Chicago Blackhawks
4. Detroit Red Wings
5. Minnesota Wild
6. San Jose Sharks
7. Columbus Blue Jackets
8. Phoenix Coyotes
9. St. Louis Blues
10. Calgary Flames
11. Dallas Stars
12. Edmonton Oilers
13. L.A. Kings
14. Nashville Predators
15. Colorado Avalanche

Eastern Conference Overall:
1. Boston Bruins
2. Philadelphia Flyers
3. Washington Capitals
4. Pittsburgh Penguins
5. Montreal Canadiens
6. Carolina Hurricanes
7. New Jersey Devils
8. Atlanta Thrashers
9. Buffalo Sabres
10. Toronto Maple Leafs
11. NY Rangers
12. Tampa Bay Lightning
13. Ottawa Senators
14. Florida Panthers
15. NY Islanders

Preseason Preview: Washington Capitals



This is it folks, the last Preseason Preview for the 2009-10 season. Thank you to those of you who took the time to check these out. I sincerely appreciate it.

Now, the Washington Capitals.

Team M.O.: These guys are young, skilled, and dangerous from just about every position. That's a stark contrast to the fact that they spend the better part of the decade as a team that was barely competitive. They made some smart draft decisions, they made some smart moves, and in the end, the team flourished again in Washington, possibly stronger than ever.

Last Season: They lost in the Conference Semifinals to the Pittsburgh Penguins, but considering that the Pens were the eventual Stanley Cup Champions that's not the worst thing in the world. They'll probably use that as motivation to be better because they hate the Pens almost as much as the Philadelphia Flyers do.

Offense: A line that features Nicklas Backstrom centering Alexander Ovechkin and Alexander Semin is one that every coach wishes they could put on the ice. Brendan Morrison and Mike Knuble were brought in to provide veteran scoring presence and will likely be on a line with Brooks Laich. Tomas Fleischmann is starting to make noise worth giving him a look as a top-six winger while captain Chris Clark plays a solid, if not offensively-limited, two-way game. Disgruntled Michael Nylander may not be putting up the numbers expected of him, but can still do well to center a third unit. The fourth line will likely be composed of Matt Bradley, Eric Fehr, David Steckel, and Boyd Gordon, with the odd man out acting as a reserve. That leaves an open spot for an enforcer, which the team will need to protect their star talent.

Defense: The defense on this team is a primarily defensive unit housing an offensive-minded jewel. Mike Green took his game up another season, scoring 73 points in 68 games... as a defenseman! However, that wouldn't have been possible without the solid defensive play of guys like Milan Jurcina and Shaone Morrisonn. Injuries limited games for guys like Tom Poti and John Erskine, but they were each effective in their respective roles while in the lineup, so they'll need to remain healthy to take that next step forward. Injuries also kept Brian Pothier out for almost the length of the season, so he'll be hoping for a stronger return campaign as well. Jeff Schultz has earned the right to round out the defense out of camp, and the rest of their depth looks good for them.

Goaltending: Now, I can't even comment on Jose Theodore after hearing about the loss of his child. I just hope he and his family recover from that. I wouldn't be surprised if the team but him on the inactive list and brought a number three guy in so he can grieve. My thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family.

Simeon Varlamov proved to be a very effective goaltender in the post season and will definitely be in the position to start commanding starting time. The more he learns English, the more he'll improve. I know the team is hot on Michal Neuvirth, but he didn't fare as well in his NHL audition as he should have so the team should find a spare goaltender if Theodore isn't ready for the start of the season.

Expectations: I like them a great deal and think they'll be every bit as competitive as Boston, Philadelphia, or Pittsburgh. These guys are one of the top-caliber teams in the Eastern Conference and a few more slight additions would make them complete.

Preseason Preview: Vancouver Canucks



We're heading down the stretch as it's time for another Preseason Preview. This is where we check out the teams going into the season.

Now, the Vancouver Canucks.

Team M.O.: These guys have a couple of finesse players and a whole lot of toughness. A lot of teams have scoring by committee, but this team has fighting by committee. They lost a little bit of toughness in trading Mike Brown and losing Rob Davison to free agency, but they still got more grit that a lot of other teams without them.

Last Season: They made it to the Western Conference Semifinals, where they were eliminated by the Blackhawks in six games. Considering they missed the postseason the year before, it's at least a step in a better direction.

Offense: The team locked up the Sedin twins again and will rely on them to provide a high level of first line offense. Ryan Kesler is constantly and consistently improving his game and could reasonably start breaking the 60 point barrier as long as his play continues to elevate. Alexandre Burrows took a huge step forward himself last season and may provide the team a top-six agitator, which is pretty valuable considering there aren't many who can fill that role, or at least well. Pavol Demitra still battles injuries more than the team would like to see, but when he's in the lineup, he's as good as gold. Mikael Samuelsson, who was acquired from the Detroit Red Wings, could easily round out the top six lineup with his play, which was rather productive despite limited ice time.

Looking further down the depth chart has us looking at guys who are still trying to take their game up that extra notch. Kyle Wellwood showed a lot of promise after the lockout, but has settled into a third line role as his conditioning is constantly being called into question. Steve Bernier has the tools to be one of the best power forwards in the league, yet is still trying to figure out how to put it all together. The same applies to Mason Raymond and his aspirations to start playing on the top lines. Ironically, if the three of them can form up a line together, I bet they could be good for at least 40 points if not more.

The fourth unit looks properly fortified, as veteran checking center Ryan Johnson can pivot the agitating Rick Rypien or the enforcing Darcy Hordichuk. Jannik Hansen looks to factor into the teams plans, leaving an extra spot on the roster for the team to fortify with either a depth forward, free agent, or trade/waiver wire pick up of their choice.

Defense: Mattias Ohlund left the team, meaning that someone's going to have to step up as the new go-to guy. Enter Kevin Bieska, who looks poised to be that guy. Willie Mitchell and Sami Salo return and provide solid top-four level defense for the squad. Alexander Edler may be on the younger side, but his numbers justify him having the right to compete for a high pairing spot. Shane O'Brien is one of the toughest defensemen in the league, but he has to start avoiding the bonehead plays and bad penalties if he's going to be an asset to his club. The last two spots will be decided by the guys they have going into camp. Nathan McIver has the best odds of getting a spot, followed by Lawrence Nycholat, Aaron Rome, Nolan Baumgartner, and Michael Funk

Goaltending: When Roberto Luongo's your goaltender, you don't have to worry much because you have the best goaltender in the Western Conference, possibly the league. Andrew Raycroft will act as the backup, which is slightly unfortunate when you consider he was once a promising starter. Meanwhile, Cory Schneider will be working the minors, toiling away at putting his game together so that if one of those two guys go down, he can take over. I like how this looks.

Expectations: These guys will likely take their division and will be a strong playoff team. It depends on the advancement of their players, but they have a squad that commits to their system, so I have to like the direction that they're headed in.